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Jon: Now, I mentioned Echinacea, it’s a great one. A lot of people are not aware, but good herbalists can identify 100 or 1000 or 1500 herbs by taste or smell. They can tell you how strong they are. It’s like, there’s no machine yet that can match the pallet of a wine expert. No machine can match the taste and smell of a good herbalist. I can do maybe 100, 200 herbs. I’m not even close to 1000 or 1500. Echinacea though is a simple one. Every herb has what’s called a signature characteristic. If you have two bags of peppermint tea and you brewed pots up and one of them tasted like dish water and the other had a really nice strong, crisp peppermint taste, anyone would go, oh that’s good peppermint and that stuff stinks. And they would be absolutely right. The signature characteristic of peppermint is the peppermint taste. The signature characteristic of Echinacea is that it numbs and tingles the mouth. The more it doesn’t, the stronger it is. You can run tests on the active ingredients they know and it will verify that they are far stronger than the ones that numb and tingle stronger. I’ve gone to health food stores and bought 30 brands of Echinacea, tested them and actually when I did this 10 years ago I found only one that had any activity at all. 29 of them, the only Echinacea of value was the word that was on the label. There was nothing inside.

Kevin: Really.

Jon: Yeah, they could have been using Echinacea but it was of such low grade that it had no impact.

Kevin: So, let me get this straight again. It numbs.

Jon: And tingles the mouth. You take Echinacea tincture and you squirt it in your mouth, two droppers. Take two droppers and swish it around in your mouth for about 15 seconds and swallow it and you should find your mouth numbing and tingling and actually saliva should be flowing and if it’s really strong, it will actually start to make you gag in your throat, because your throat starts to catch. The more it doesn’t, the stronger that Echinacea is. The one thing we could do very easy is if we took the same stuff and we would brew it the two ways and one of them is if we used good quality Echinacea and the first one would numb and tingle your mouth and would blow people away. In fact, I actually use to walk around with three bottles. One that I bought at the store, a commercial Echinacea that had virtually no activity but was a very popular brand, to the one we created using a higher quality herb which is about three or four times stronger than that and then that same herb brewed the new way with the new technique that we had and we’ve since measured it and it’s a 100% stronger.

Kevin: Wow.

Jon: Yeah and actually what would happen is I did it once in a large scale demo. I will never do it again because people started gagging all over. Their throat started seizing up it was so strong. So we had a few go, ugh, ugh, ugh – several hundred of them.

Kevin: So I imagine that the value in terms of price is – I mean, you go to get these tinctures, they’re fairly expensive regardless, so it would make sense if it is any extra money, is it extra money to get —

Jon: You know actually, it isn’t extra money because you actually get more bioactive ingredients out. You’re actually making stronger stuff. You actually use less of the good herb than you would otherwise. Actually, the process lowers the cost so what you are doing and what you’re paying for is still the quality of the herb but the process actually makes the cost a little less for us because we get more high quality 먹튀검증 tincture out of a slightly less herb, because it does so much better. Also, one of the things I mentioned, you have water and alcohol as the solvents making the tincture. That still leaves behind anything that is oil soluble and we found a way that we can use that process to also pull out the oil soluble bio-chemicals.

Kevin: Oh, that’s cool.

Jon: Yeah, which makes it even stronger, but you use good quality herbs, good quality Echinacea – we have one formula, an antipathigen formula. It’s not even a tincture actually. It’s a pressing of garlic and horse radish and habanera and things like that and it’s got liquid zinc in it, grapefruit extract, olive leaf extract.

Kevin: Wow.

Jon: It’s an antipathigen formula that was so strong we actually were contacted by people in the government who wanted us to send them some 100 bottles and we did. It was tested for bird flu, Ebola, small pox, anthrax. It went to the Department of Defense, U.S. Army, Walter Reid Medical Hospital and an agency that I’m not suppose to mention but they’re all initialed and we were told that it passed all their tests.

Kevin: Are you serious?

Jon: And they sent it out. We were told it was going to an outside lab for verification and we wouldn’t hear again unless it failed the test. That’s the last we heard so I don’t know.

Kevin: Wow.

Jon: But we know it works and for colds and flus like that. That’s actually a topic worth discussing on why antibiotics and antiviral don’t work and why natural substances do.

Kevin: Yeah. That’s very important.

Jon: The problem is that when you take an antibiotic and an antiviral, you’re actually breading super bugs. It’s very simple. When you take an antibiotic, anything that survives it, by definition is one that has a resistance to that antibiotic or antiviral.

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